• KillRoy231

    I think I've finally figured it out! Regarding the ultimate antagonist of a series, if there's multiple BigBads then this only applies to the final or ultimate one (like The First)

    Spoilers for all four Joss Whedon series follow

    With the exception of the villain in Dollhouse, who had unique circumstances around him, the ultimate antagonist of Joss Whedon series is never killed off.

    Regarding the BigBads:

    • In Buffy, you have The First, final antagonist and most dangerous
    • In Angel, you have the Senior Partners, who run Wolfram & Hart
    • In Firefly you have the Parliament, who run the Alliance
    • In Avengers you have Thanos, the guy behind Loki and Ronan who is confirmed as the villain of Avengers: Infinity War

    Their fate:

    • The First cannot be killed, but at …
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    Did Buffy kill The First?

    February 15, 2014 by KillRoy231

    So, I finally finished Season 7 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I was wondering, did Buffy kill The First? We see Buffy slowly stand up and swing her scythe where The First was last seen in front of her.

    Now I know plenty of you are going to say he survived because he's not a physical being. But does the scythe have the power to kill The First?

    Willow said The First is "scrunched", I don't know if that's supposed to mean he's dead or simply trapped below what used to be the Hellmouth. Many have argued the latter since The First is a manifestation of all evil and if it dies, which it can't, then there would be no more evil left, and obviously that can't have happened because there's still evil in Season 5 of Angel (which I plan on watching s…

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    Big Bads of Angel

    January 8, 2014 by KillRoy231

    First, let me tell you how I got into Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I hadn't intended to watch it previously, I was checking to see if my theory about Joss Whedon sparing his ultimate/final antagonist was true, since we never even see the Alliance's leaders in Firefly and I assumed Alpha was the main villain (later found out he does kill the Big Bad of Dollhouse, but only after making us like him as a hero first). To prove my theory that Thanos will survive the end of Avengers 3.

    Anyway, I was surprised to see a Joss Whedon series expand beyond two seasons. Out of seven Big Bads - The Master, Drusilla, Mayor Richard Wilkins, Adam, Glory, Warren, and The First, only two of them survive, including The First, who I'll say from his description is i…

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